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A&M has plenty of options for replacing Kingsbury

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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 7:48 am, Fri Dec 14, 2012.

With Kliff Kingsbury returning to Texas Tech take over at his alma mater, Texas A&M has an unexpected vacancy at offensive coordinator. There are a number of candidates whom head coach Kevin Sumlin could target from outside and a few he could choose to promote from within.

Whatever the case may be, whoever takes over will have plenty of new toys to play with, and the opening will assuredly be highly sought after.

Here's a short list of potential candidates that make sense:

• Noel Mazzone, UCLA -- Mazzone was on Sumlin's radar when he took the A&M job last December. The two have a good relationship. Mazzone took over at UCLA after Sumlin brought Kingsbury with him to College Station. He guided freshman quarterback Brett Hundley to a solid first season and led the Bruins to the 20th best offense in the land. He earned $350,000 in 2012, according to the Los Angeles Times.

• Jason Phillips, SMU -- Sumlin isn't looking for somebody who is going to overhaul the offense. Why fix what ain't broken? With Phillips, you'd get a seamless transition. He was the co-offensive coordinator alongside Kingsbury at Houston in 2011 and ran the SMU offense in 2012. It wouldn't be a big-splash hire as far as publicity, but it would make a lot of sense.

• David Beaty, A&M wide receivers coach -- Beaty makes the most sense. He has experience as an offensive coordinator, calling plays at both Kansas and Rice. There would be no adjustment period as the Aggies would then only need to hire a new quarterbacks coach. And you would be promoting the best recruiter you have on staff, for Beaty has been tremendous in garnering commitments in the Metroplex.

• Clarence McKinney, A&M running backs coach -- McKinney has also been a stud recruiter, getting big commitments out of the Houston area. He's been in charge of the running game and has been with Sumlin since 2008. The one knock on McKinney is that he's never been in charge of calling plays.

Though Johnny Manziel tweeted Tuesday about bringing Clemson offensive coordinator Chad Morris back to A&M -- his alma mater -- it would be incredibly costly for both Morris and the Aggies. Morris is making $1.3 million annually, the highest-paid assistant in all of college football. Also, if he were to leave for a coordinator position at another program, he'd owe Clemson a buyout of more than $6 million.

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  • Bobbyroy posted at 1:02 am on Thu, Dec 20, 2012.

    Bobbyroy Posts: 2

    I agree in the two games that A&M lost kk didn't have a clue as to what to do once they stopped johnny.

  • Bobbyroy posted at 12:59 am on Thu, Dec 20, 2012.

    Bobbyroy Posts: 2

    Please pick the guy from ucla!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jim '78 posted at 10:40 pm on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    jim '78 Posts: 1414

    Neil '78!!! Always good to see a classmate! Neil we have to keep the tide turned and the mo going!! I thought we had this thing whipped back in the 70's with Emory and then 80's with Jackie and 90's with RC. We need to keep it turned and bring a National Title back to Aggieland. Go Fight'en Texas Aggie Football Team btho ou

  • Neil'78 posted at 10:36 am on Tue, Dec 18, 2012.

    Neil'78 Posts: 1

    So true Jim. I never was comfortable with a tortiiia tossing red raider on our sideline. GIG'EM!!!

  • jim '78 posted at 6:06 pm on Mon, Dec 17, 2012.

    jim '78 Posts: 1414

    Keep the rest of the coaches!!! Talk the Juniors into staying for a shot at a National Title and keep signing top notch recruits!!! The tide has turned let's keep the mo going!!

    btho ou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • just passing by posted at 11:42 pm on Sun, Dec 16, 2012.

    just passing by Posts: 299

    KK is gone and I wish him no ill will. Probably won't keep up with him and his little red raiders because I don't follow the 12-4+2 conference.
    Off topic, I would like to wish Sam Houston State the best of luck it their championship game on Jan. 5th.

  • mart80 posted at 7:24 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    Being politically correct,KK ,USED A&M as a stepping stone and if the TT job was not there he'd still be here until the next job.Sumlin who alot did'nt want in the beginning needs to make this right,to save his own job.I for one are not a stone and two you better start thinking that way.Hmmmm...

  • themikegolf posted at 4:15 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    themikegolf Posts: 7

    any thoughts on Doug Ruse for OC hire?

  • mart80 posted at 4:06 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    Another stint on Dallas Skyline players,Nelson a transport to OU,Johnson disappears off the screen,now a 4-star DT( sorry he;s listed by Rivals as such,not a 3).So whats the beef?

  • jim '78 posted at 1:26 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    jim '78 Posts: 1414

    I always heard that New Braunfels KK always wanted to come to Aggieland to play. I believe it to be true. Who actually really wants to go to ttech?? Good luck to KK i wish him no ill will, but ttech as a whole is classless. Glad to be in the SEC!!! The best conference in College Football and has the most class. I will be pulling for all SEC teams in bowl games and as usual I will be pulling against tu, ttech, and!

    btho ou

  • '03-'08 posted at 12:02 pm on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    '03-'08 Posts: 546

    Thanx for clearing that up about Huggins. It makes it a lot easier to swallow .

  • Aggiemike01 posted at 11:54 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    Aggiemike01 Posts: 140

    Absolutely correct. And look at kubiak now. I figured ole kk would have stayed and then a few years from now went and grabbed a high profile program. Let one that wants to be here go do it now. Good riddance kk

  • js82 posted at 11:41 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    js82 Posts: 73

    Yeah - KK was clearly playing to the crowd yesterday. To give him a little credit he did make a favorable remark about the players and other folks he had built relationships with. Still, it would have shown a bit more class not to have said anything to trash his former employer.

    The truth is that these are ALL business decisions. A school hires coaches who do this for a living! The most you can do is hope that they are qualified, work hard, and produce acceptable results.

    KK is young and probably still has a lot to learn. I've no doubt that at some point in the future an AD will tell him, "Sorry Kliff, but we have to let you go. It isn't personal - it's just business..." Heck even DKR, the Bear, and Bobby Bowden eventually got that message. The question is whether he will get this message before Mack?

    I still wish him luck and look forward to the next time A&M plays TT (when we will BTHOTT) [wink]

  • seeing stars posted at 11:04 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    seeing stars Posts: 271

    Sumlin has to be careful with his OC selection. Promoting his WR coach provides the necessary pay raise that may be required to retain him, saves a WR coach, saves a good recruiter, and only leaves you looking for a QB coach. Sumlin keeps his Offensive scheme intact and hangs on to some Offensive position coaches who owe him. Those same Offensive position coaches coul be replaced if a new, credentialedd, respected OC were to be hired. In this type Offense a Head Coach has to be comfortable with giving a tremendous amount of authority to his QB with regard to play calling at the LOS. A new OC that has established himself in the world of college football may not be so comfortable with that. At best, you are severely limited in qualified canduidates unless you just hire a youngster looking foer a title and willing to give up authoity to the head coach (see the Kubiak/Shanahan relationship at Denver). It will be interesting to watch this process.

  • seeing stars posted at 10:52 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    seeing stars Posts: 271

    The game of college football has not been standing on it's collective ear waiting for the second coming of Urban meyer in the form of Kliff Kingsbury. Facts are that he has been on a rather steep ascent based on circumstances that hve aligned his coarching stars. Name another who has spent only 3 years on the sideline and all were as Co-OC or OC then landed a head coaching job in an AQ conference. Nope, it's pure circumstance and the need for another severely injured program to find it's healing through a former success story. No more, no less. Watch who he is able to attract for a staff. KK arrived in January with an Air Raid playbook under his arm and one Kevin Sumlin pulling his strings. It was Sumlin's desire to continue with the Art Briles/Dana Holgerson Offense that led him to bring along a "yes-man" in the form of KK if he were to continue the Air Raid. Johnny Manziel changed all that, KK was a fish out of water in Manziel's offense, the tech job was open, KK pursued it. This time he can thank Johnny Football instead of Case Keenum.

    Kerrick Huggins is a huge academic risk (spell that as "won't qualify") and based on personal conversations with two metro coaches, he is bound for the JUCO system. A&M is trying to clean up it's numbers and advised him he may be better off with another offer. Oklahoma is desperate for DT's losing 3 this year and losing Manning to A&M didn't help especially since his older brother played there. The academic issues have ALWAYS been an issue with Huggins just as they are with Griffin. This was not a loss, it was a clean-up exercise.

  • gabe58 posted at 10:22 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    gabe58 Posts: 331

    Kingsbury doesn’t seem to want to listen and learn, so I’ll follow his example. Someone needs to tell him that he is not going to “suit up” for the next TT game. He is supposed to be their head coach. Previously on this website, some of his fans (probably his family) attempted to cover up Kingsbury’s past derogatory remarks about Texas A&M. They said that before he went to TT, he had wanted to play for A&M (Coach Sumlin said something similar to try to help Aggies accept KK). Now KK has verbally challenged Tuberville, and has indicated by his words (and lack of words) his dislike for Texas A&M. He sounds more like a kid with a chip on his shoulder than a head coach.

    And, Jim’78 was exactly right when he said, “KK is one lucky guy to have had Johnny…..”. If JFF hadn’t made plays out of KK’s failed play calling, we would have lost more games than we won.

    KK never passed the “horse test” with me. My Daddy said, “A man is a lot like a horse. If he looks like he has good sense, nine times out of ten, he will have good sense.”

  • bbfan22 posted at 9:23 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    bbfan22 Posts: 247


  • themikegolf posted at 9:22 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    themikegolf Posts: 7

    Huggins was 3-star. the Ags have three other DT commits including 4-star Manning

  • '03-'08 posted at 9:19 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    '03-'08 Posts: 546

    I watched a clip on a local news station last night of KK's press conference accepting the TT job. He said this wit a smirk: "yes, the job I took at UH was a business move and the job I took at that other school was definitely a business move". He didn't have courtesy to even mention A&M by name. No surprise to me and I too am glad he's gone.

  • bbfan22 posted at 9:16 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    bbfan22 Posts: 247

    Just watched the video on of KK being officially announced to Tech supporters yesterday. Not impressed that he referred to A&M as "that other school" twice, and that coming here was only a business decision. I think we all knew that was the case, but there was no need to point it out. His goal was always to coach at Tech, and if he wins a lot of games, that's where he'll stay. I'll give him credit for helping to engineer a 10-2 season and mentor JM, but I still won't root for Tech under any circumstances. I'll bet the trash can outside his house is filled with all the A&M clothing that Adidas gave him. I'll also bet he didn't buy one single item of A&M clothing while here.

  • mart80 posted at 7:17 am on Sat, Dec 15, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    I personally believe he left due to stiff competition. OU was one of his choices,but not offered until two days ago.After Manning,OU was desperate for DT's.

  • jim '78 posted at 9:49 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    jim '78 Posts: 1414

    KK is one lucky guy to have had Johnny , to be with Sumlin and Tuberville leaving. He must have one heck of a rabbits foot!! To bad he was not an Aggie in college. well, he knows for a fact that Aggieland is more special and more electric than tt in that hole Lubbock will ever be. dook I am with

    If you want a new QB coach bring in Kevin Murray .

    Get back to work and btho ou!!!!

  • dook posted at 9:21 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    dook Posts: 8

    KK was good; never sold on him being here very long; he was looking at A&M as a means to an end. Actually, glad he is gone, and landed where he wants to be; I still hate tech and don't give a dam n if KK is the coach or not; will NEVER pull for them in any game . Sumlin will replace him with another great OC; still not sold that it was KK that kept JFF grounded; almost the opposite; JFF made KK look even better than he already is. just my opinion anyway

  • '03-'08 posted at 7:56 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    '03-'08 Posts: 546

    Part of being a good recruiter is to keep them here once you get them here.

  • '03-'08 posted at 7:32 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    '03-'08 Posts: 546

    Losing 4* DT's isn't a good sign for our depth at that position. If he doesn't want to be here then more power to him. I would like to know why he left though.

    @ RJ...I want Chad Morris because he is a proven OC and he would be a great recruiter in the state of Texas as well as other parts of the country since he's coached at Tulane and Clemson. Has nothing to do with being an aggie IMO. Thanks to JFF we shouldn't have to worry about $$ anymore...[wink]

  • RJ posted at 5:47 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    RJ Posts: 1069

    Saw that. Also heard A&M parted ways with a 2013 commit, do you know who that was!

  • mart80 posted at 3:20 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    Huggins decommits to OU.4-star DT

  • mart80 posted at 2:58 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    Sometimes sports has to take a backseat to the events in the world,prayers to the families and teachers killed in CT. Give your kid a hug or a call today.Tragic.

  • Florida Mike posted at 1:29 pm on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    Florida Mike Posts: 191

    Sumlin knows that continuity is most important and will drive his decision...he wants more successes so he will most likely go inside, promote from within!

  • gregwh posted at 11:44 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    gregwh Posts: 635

    I don't care what age of coordinator he hires. I'm just noting that you can't pour chemistry or character into the mold once they've passed the 25 year mark (roughly).

    I am just noting it's unlikely he picks someone that young. Even Major Applewhite was 28 before he was OC for Todd Graham at Rice.

  • RJ posted at 9:51 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    RJ Posts: 1069

    Who cares what the "Age" is of the person you hire. You base your hire on "Performance" not "Age".

  • gregwh posted at 9:32 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    gregwh Posts: 635

    Sumlin's comments on what he's trying to do with a coordinator--focusing on chemistry--are in my opinion spot on in a situation where things are provably working. He gets the freedom to touch up any substance or style issues, of course, in making the hire. But the character of the person is usually set by the mid 20s and I don't see him hiring anyone that young for a coordinator position.

  • RJ posted at 9:03 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    RJ Posts: 1069

    Based on the exposure A&M has had this season I expect "Bow Tie" to give our new AD the " Green Light" pay whatever it takes to keep position coaches. KK leaving had nothing to do with his pay......he got a Head Coach job at his school and the pay was just a bonus.

  • mart80 posted at 8:45 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    mart80 Posts: 1885

    Until A&M becomes competitive in salary ranges, this flock of geese are'nt going to stay grounded, bottom line.

  • RJ posted at 8:35 am on Fri, Dec 14, 2012.

    RJ Posts: 1069

    First of I trust Sumlin to make the right decision. As far as Beaty or McKinney, not sure of their qualifications for OC, but must give them a "Pay increase" to stay on staff, 2 of our best recruiters and outstanding job this year as position coaches. No way try to get in a "Pay War over Chad Morris" just because he is an Aggie.


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