If you're like me and haven't seen the Lone Star Showdown trophy the Aggies have had for a year, rest easy. You have at least another year to go by the Bright Complex's lobby and behold it.
Texas A&M sprinted -- literally and figuratively -- to the finish line in this year's Lone Star Showdown race, winning 5 1/2 of the last 6 1/2 points to keep the trophy in Aggieland. At the Big 12 Outdoor Track and Field Championships in Lubbock over the weekend, the Aggie men and women both finished ahead of the Longhorns to earn the final two points, giving each team 9 1/2 points in the annual 19-sport competition. In the event of a tie, by rule, the previous winner gets to keep the trophy.
So that's the Aggies based on last year's 10 1/2-8 1/2 victory. Even if there wasn't a tiebreaker in place, A&M certainly earned the right to keep the trophy.
The Aggies have come a long way since getting outscored 28 1/2-9 1/2 in the Lone Star Showdown's first two years. That, by the way, would have been indicative of just about any other year during the last few decades if the competition had been in place that long. Texas always had the better all-around athletics program -- until now.
The Aggies have caught the Longhorns, and it's not a one-year fluke. Each program has earned 28 1/2 points in the last three years, and you can expect more of the same in the next three years.
A&M, though, certainly has been the big winner since the inception of the Lone Star Showdown. Many scoffed that it would show how far the Aggies were behind the Longhorns, which it did at first. But it's also chronicled the Aggies' progress.
Texas isn't the only athletic program the Aggies have gained ground on. A&M would have beaten every Big 12 South program using the Lone Star Showdown formula -- Baylor (11-7), Oklahoma (11 1/2-5 1/2), Oklahoma State (11-6) and Texas Tech (13 1/2-3 1/2).
Yet, few Aggie fans were high-fiving at work Monday or bragging in the chat rooms about keeping the Lone Star Showdown trophy.
I spent more than five hours Monday with 300 potential jurors. The only conversations concerning A&M sports were what's wrong with the baseball team and what's going to happen in head football coach Mike Sherman's second year. There wasn't a word about the Lone Star Showdown or A&M's domination in track.
In other words, there's work to be done.
The Lone Star Showdown isn't going to carry enough weight until the Aggies have a Top 25 football program. If the Aggies would have been 11-2 in football this year, a la Texas Tech, and earned 64.5 points in the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics' Sports Directors' Cup (formerly the Sears Cup), the Aggies would be in the Top 10 and possibly heading toward a Top 5 finish. How great would that be?
The Aggies also are going to have to beat the Longhorns in baseball -- if not in the Lone Star Showdown, then make it to Omaha while the Longhorns lose in Super Regionals or worse.
The only sports the Aggies have been skunked in during the Lone Star Showdown are men's swimming, men's indoor track and baseball.
Future races typically will go down to the last few sports, which has been the case in the last few years.
A&M athletics director Bill Byrne was shrewd to hire track coach Pat Henry, maybe the best college coach in America. He's a better closer than Kyra Sedgwick.
Texas had an 8-0 edge in track points during the first two years of the Lone Star Showdown. A&M, thanks to Henry, has an 8-4 edge since.
A&M's track teams had a 4-0 edge this year in that scoring system on Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Tech. Throw out track and A&M only would have tied BU, beat OSU by a point and OU by two points.
And despite having a 10-point edge on Tech, the Red Raiders get to gloat about football. And this year, baseball. Ditto OU.
Byrne and the Aggies should be proud of what they've accomplished in the Lone Star Showdown and the Sports Directors' Cup. But until they make a BCS bowl in football, a Final Four in basketball and the College World Series, they're not going to be held in the same esteem as the Longhorns or Sooners.
Robert Cessna's e-mail address is robert.cessna@theeagle.com.
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Posted by: miller58 On: 5/28/2009
Comment Title: RE: A&M LOSING MORE COMMITTS AS WE SPEAK?
My personal opinions:____Sister, please clarify your last post, it makes no sense?____Objective Homer, are you part of the problem?____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/28/2009
Comment Title:
McKinney on Gov Perry's staff in past then McKinney becomes chancellor. Gov Perry appoints all regents. Regents are over Mckinney and Murano. Murano lends recent support to Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Perry upset. "Regents" decide we need to save money by combining chancellor and president positions. Perry is out as governor. Regents decide maybe we DO need a president because job is just too big. How about Perry. Good ole' Ag yell leader. more importantly, good ole' boy.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/28/2009
Comment Title: RE: Sister
My personal opinions:_____Sister, thanks for the heads up!_____Those two articles and their comments, say it all!_____miller58
Posted by: Sister On: 5/28/2009
Comment Title: VERIFICATION
Those who disagree with a "miller" perspective of the situation need to get off the sports blog, go to the eagle's news site, go to A&M news, and read the comments under "A&M MAY COMBINE TOP POSTS" and "MURANO TACKLES ISSUES" and you will see the good ole boy network in operation at its finest. This university is becoming a national joke on the field, in the classroom, and inside administrative offices. Maybe you can understand how 2 million dollar coaches get hired when you read mckinneys comments and quotes.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: RE: Objective Homer
My personal opinions:_____Objective Homer, you've got it exactly right!_____Execution is the key in hiring the coach we want._____When there is a five star football recruit you want, you don't send a sherman because he's proven time and again for three signing classes, that he can't execute!_____You send a Saban._____Similarily, when we have a five star coach we want, we don't send a Sherman type, we send someone that is proven to execute!_____That someone will determine that top coaches hot buttons ahead of time, and close him on them every day, until he signs._____Then we got our 10 to 22 difference makers starting his first full recruiting season; and we are competing for the Big 12 the third season, and the mnc soon after!_____miller58
Posted by: Objective_Homer On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: miller
Your ideas sound good on paper. I will be very impressed if they can pull it off properly. I'm not holding my breath. It's going to be an interesting year to say the least.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: Bring back Coach Dat Nguyen!
Feel good story I know.. but he can ignite the base and maybe resurrect the Wrecking Crew?! Would like to see him take over for Kines.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: RE: Objective Homer
My personal opinions:_____Objective Homer. very good points you make!____Earlier, I said the prospect of who would make the next hire, scares the hell out of me!_____McKinney, Murano, most of the regents, and the local good ole boys proved that they aren't to be trusted to do a professional job, with the Sherman hire!____ Dr. Gates would oversee it competently and professionally._____can't think of anybody else?_____Good coach are very intelligent people_____They watch the recruiting scene very closely, and first look for the job that has the difference makers already in place, so their chance of success is greatest!_____Any team with those difference makers in place will be their first choice._____Urban Meyers dream job was Notre Dame, was offered, took Florida because the difference makers were in place at Florida._____ Tressel took Ohio state for the same reason,_____ so did stoops. miles, mac brown, etc. Rifht now Weis at ND has recruited over 50 difference makers just the last four years, and all the good coaches are ready to pounce on that job, if weis can't coach them this year?____This is why our situation is so sad, Sherman's empty cupboard of no difference makers, will make A&M less attractive to a good coach, but I assure you, with a pre-approved adequate budget, any good hiring authority can get us a coach that can recruit 10 to 22 difference makers every year, and have us competing for the Big 12 and the mnc in 3 years, despite Sherman's empty cupboard._____miller58
Posted by: Objectiver_Homer On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: Miller
i agree with you Miller. He should be gone already. i just think im more patient than you in general. Like waiting in line at the store and such. I guess i just dont have faith that the next hire will be properly chosen. It's too soon to expect anything different in the philosophy used in choosing the next staff. I know this sounds crazy but 2 or 3 more years of 4 and 5 win seasons might save more time than changing now while the current group still believes in "yes" men. My biggest worry of all is that Penn State AND FL State will most likeley be in the coaching market at the same time we are. This is one of many reasons i have argued in the past that we just cant get anyone we want even if we offer the most money. It will take alot of luck within the market and who out competition is at the time.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: RE: Objective Homer
My personal opinions:_____Objective Homer, Ags have been just far too patient!_____Loyd Carr screwed up one year, and he's gone the next; Lane kffin was gone after one year: Coach Franklin was gone in th middle of his first year, Billy Clyde was gone after two years, etc._____You can tell after one full season if a football head coach can recruit 10 to 22 difference makers, and ours can't?_____If a coach recruits well, you can afford to give him a second and third year as long as he is bringing in 10 to 22 fourand five star difference makers every year._____That way the worst you end up with, is a cupboard full of four and five star difference makers for the next coach, if your coach can't coach 'em?_____Ours has already proven with 3 classes, now into his fourth and fifth classes, that he can't even recruit the 10 to 22 differenc makers necessary to win, so our next coach doesn't even have anything but Sherman's empty cupboard, even if he is replaced today?_____The longer it goes, the emptier Sherman's cupboard gets?_____Hobo posts this same bs on other Ag blogs, and I'm 14 years sick of the spin!_____miller58
Posted by: Objectiver_Homer On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: HOBO
I see spin in your comments hobo. If this were an isolated occurence then MAYBE your reasoning holds up. With that said, i'm a bit more patient than miller. I just know that your comments are what aggies have been hearing for the last 15-20 years. But as long as there are enough hobo's showing up to kyle field then the poor results will only continue.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/27/2009
Comment Title: RE: hobo
My personal opinions:_____Hobo, Aggies are just tired and fed up with the past 14 years of false spin and losing coaching._____We hold thinking that, "we have always done it this way", like you so elequently bs, as the cause of our gross failure, since we joined the Big 12, and we want the losing nand flse spin, stopped now!_____Losing more than 4 out of every 10 football games, against Big 12 teams, since we first joined the big 12 is just not acceptable A&M coaching._____ A&M not compeating for the Big 12 and mnc every year, like our friends at tu, ou and lsu do every year now, is just not acceptable; and people with your "that's the way we've always been doing it" spin and thinking must be removed from A&M permanently, for it to be successful._____Many former Ags have already removed themselves, with false spin in the eyes of Ags, that live by and respect our honor code!_____If you think A&M ticket sales and donations have dropped now, with our terrible recruiting and coaching, I can assure you if we don't have a recent top college coach and recruiter, in place by December 1, 2009, Ags everywhere will demomstrate just how fed up we are with our coaching selections and retension; and it will cost us a hell of a lot more $ than a new coach would? ____ We started losing so badly every since joining the Big 12; and either the losing coaching retension stops now, or the ticket sales and donations stop now!_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: My Last on This Article
I think there are very few demanding change immediately. Just "speculating" what the near future may hold because of what everyone went through with the franchione thing. Patience may be a little thin right now. I would hope the current staff could put it together and have a successful season. It would be best for the program and that is what everyone on here wants I think. Some of us, including myself, are just of the opinion it will not happen. Hobo, and those like you, do NOT stop posting. You bring reasonable, intelligent argument from the other side and some of us appreciate that.
Posted by: hobo On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: We will have to agree to disagree
Sepculation and opinion are great and exactly what the intended purpose of this blog. I think that speculation and opinion has to be based on facts and history. In my opinion my comments below reflect the only possible situation. I hope there is no need to replace Sherman after season 2, 3, 4 or 5. But should the need arise, I believe that based on history, Bill Byrne will stick to his established philosophy. I do not believe that a buyout could happen until after the end of year four at the earliest. Realistically, I don't think it would happen until after year five at the earliest. If a change is needed I would hole that it would be made at the earliest possible moment, but reality just doesn't support that notion. My opinion is that everyone here is wasting their time speculating when future chage will happen or wishing for instant change. I am sick of reading the crud on this blog demanding a change yesterday. I think this will be my last post as it appears that all the arrguements are the exact same on this site. The debate will never change unless we start winning. My personal advice is to stop worring about it, a change will happen if needed when it it becomes financially viable.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: Forgot my name on post below
Posted by: On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: Speculation
Hobo is correct. Almost everything posted on these blogs is opinion and speculation, and conjecture and heresay. That is what this is all about. That is what this forum is for. No, sherman probably will not be gone after season #2 however a bad performance, say 5 wins or less, WILL start the wheels in motion for his buyout possibly at the end of year three which IS a possibility. As always, there will be talks between the parties involved and a dollar amount reached and a farewell speech written. And only if it even comes to that. Not "fanatical" ideas just because they differ from some, just different ideas. No, nobody knows who directly influenced the sherman hire or the franchione hire and nobody here ever will. Again just more speculation, also what this blog is intended for. The entire process that gets discussions going on any of these topics is based on speculation and what-if's. Just remember the bigger picture. They would not be going on at all if everything was rosy with Aggie football. This blog does not represent the tip of the national "speculation" iceberg.
Posted by: hobo On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: Quoting cliche's are nice but not necessarily accurate.
Byrne was hired to do a job and apparently has the authority to use his already establihed and documented philosophy of giving a coach fives years to show his worth. He has given no one any reason to doubt this. All this speculation about those behind the curtain that really pull the stings is just speculation. At this point there is no reason to believe any of it. Aside from the few of you who post these fanatical ideas on this website there appears to be a general understanding that even if it is not a good year for the team sherman will be given real chance at success. My personal opinions might be that if we have a bad year, there should be a change, but it is totally unrealistic to believe that there will be a change. Until a substantial amount of funding demands that Sherman go, he will not be released until either his contract expires or at best there is one year left. ATM would be left in a financial sink hole if they fired Sherman. You may speculate that funding would increase if we get a new coach, but there is no certainty in this. ATM is fisically responsible. They have a limited budget and have to operate within its limits. This is not the federal government where we can make huge investments and hope they pay off. they will only make a change when they can afford it. i think it is safe to assume that the economy has lowered the amount of donations to athletic departments around the country. how bout "$$$ talks and BS walks." No change until the bottom line says we can afford it. In my opinion we will not be able to afford a change regardless of whether one is needed at least until after year four of sherman's tenure. All I hear around hear is a bunch of BS and speculation.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: RE: Hobo
How about "fool me once, shame on you.....fool me twice, shame on me". If Sherman wins only five games, do you think Byrne would risk his personal future by repeating the exact same process. Five wins WILL cause the Aggie Nation to become very restless. Hard to say based on the rest of the REAL decision makers that may be behind the scenes. I just don't think Byrne is as influenced and "hooked up" by those with deep pockets on the political side as maybe some others are. He doesn't go back with A&M like most. If it does go down we may find out who really was behind the Sherman hire, Byrne or someone else. Long way til then though. Maybe never.
Posted by: Hobo On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: to everyone who thinks Sherman should go after next year if he doesn't get however many # of wins
What makes you think that Byrne will change his MO? He gave Fran 5 aweful years. Why would he not give Sherman at least 3?
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo- you are correect
Sorry about my mis-statement below. In an April 16 response to a miller58 statement I did reveal a little of my personal history. I still believe those things are best left in the past no matter how recent or distant. Just wanted to own up to my mistake in response to your statement below.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: Stars, agreed!
Yes, I leave the personal history out in the future.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: A&M NEEDS A GOOD COACH NOW, OR CONTINUE TO BE RANKED AT THE VERY BOTTOM!
My personal opinions:_____Mike Sherman committed only 8 four star players in his first two full recruiting seasons; that's less than 11 players for either an offensive or a defensive team?_____Nick Saban committed 40 four and five star players in his same first two full recruiting seasons; that's almost a complete 2-deep on both offense and defense?_____Do you realize we are just completely dead in the Big 12 with recruiting as bad as Mike's?_____ miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo (Success/Failure)
Not me on that post (I think you are referring to the post by Sister). Also, I personally have never claimed to have participated in athletics at any level because I don't think that is important on this blog. These are opinions and you are entitled to post those no matter what your background. Besides, it makes for a little more interesting reading when personal history is left out don't ya think?
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo
In all honesty, I think 6 wins and a bowl of any kind saves him for another year where more will be expected. I also believe that 5 wins will be his undoing and the search committe will start looking at the timing for his replacement (money, new hire availability, who else is looking and will compete for services, etc). It may come sooner rather than later with only 5 wins. I HAVE NOT seen this defense on the field so I really don't know the scheme he intends but know this. It is a defense born out of necessity rather than modern design. Lacking the personnel for the positions can be blamed on the previous staff only to a certain extent then sherman is held accountable and I believe this is one boat he has missed largely due to his defensive coordinator. This fall will be two years and we should only be concerned with getting reps at certain slots yet we find ourself designing a whole new scheme and realigning players once again. That, in my opinion, is unsatisfactory at this level and does not make potential recruits comfortable with your program's direction.
Posted by: MARCH GRANDIOSO On: 5/26/2009
Comment Title: GOOD LUCK AGGIES
Good luck in NCAA. There is alot of negativities in these blogs. I thought UT is too harsh when it comes to doggin' out their players when they mess up. Take it easy guys. Hate ur rival not ur players. Heck hate ur coaches for they are to blame. I have seen blogs from the other conferences, this is a bit too discouraging. But kudos for the hard core Ags. Good Luck guys & represent big12...they are all hating us for having 8 teams...lol.. Big12 rules...Texas Fight!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Clarification
Stars, misread your 5 win comment.. Yes, he would have some explaining to do with only 1 more win over last year! Especially with a healthy squad! Weak 6? So much to look at there, but I think everyone wants to see A&M in a freaking bowl this year. I think we have enough talent for 6 wins, please! I hope he coaches out of his mind and DE Von Miller lights it up!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Success/Failure comment
Stars, yes that was me. I think you mentioned you played some sports. I played baseball growing up and even into college (but not with A&M). We always set goals. The last was always "to win it all". We new by aiming high the other smaller goals kinda took care of themselves. But make no mistake, we wanted to win it all! In all my years of playing ball, only twice did my team win it all! I know the difference. It's unmistakable. A&M is building what it takes to win it all, in my opinion. Sherman seems to know this and Byrne talks about it in his tip of the hat blog, so I like what I hear. But proof is in the pudding. That is why I keep going back to playing the game. W's and L's are all that matter to this Ag.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Depends.. but yes he needs to win
Stars, I think he would be as shocked as all of us if he goes 0-5 out the gate, especially with a full roster (meaning no injuries to key starters). So, yes I think I would look at the direction of the program differently if that were to happen.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo
As I have said, I agree with the 6-7 wins to keep him on (6 with a look at who and how OR any 7, any way). I therefore assume you will call for termination with 5 wins or a weak 6. Am I correct with that? If I am then we can talk about miller's golf game til the season is underway because we are on the same page.
Posted by: Sister On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: RE: pablo
In answer to your 5/23/09 post which I am pretty sure is the real Pablo, my opinion of success and failure is over-achievement or under-achievement. Do more than you are usually capable of and you have over-achievement or SUCCESS. Do less than you are capable of and you have under-achievement or FAILURE. A lot of people thought we FAILED last year and I personally agree. We will have our answer this year.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Hopefully the Blog admnistrator can take a look
The real Pablo here.. I've sent an email, let's see what happens. Stink'n troll!!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: JimBob78
Well, you make some good points for the defense of Sherman.. but the prosecution has brought in some technical data that predicts blow out losses (40+ I read) and an anemic defense that is regressing! Will be an interesting year 2 for Coach Sherman to say the least. Don't agree with the 8 win thing (posted by a fake) I have always said 6-7 wins to keep him on for a third year, after which I think he needs to post some big wins (like 10!). I am willing to see if he can do it, but am just as anxious to see climb out of last place of the Big 12 (with or without Sherman). I am hoping WITH!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: I don't know....
Who is making the posts but this is my first post on this article.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Watch out for imposters!
This board is full of them!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: As I have said JimBob........
Sherman will have his chance to prove it on the field. If he fails this year I think you are spot on.....he should go.
Posted by: JimBob 78 On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: By the way Pablo
You are a good ag but you must agree that if Sherman does not win more than 8 games this year he should be fired immediately. We just have too much going for us not to reach that goal.
Posted by: 22 Blast On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: Another View
Your site has taken on what some believe are the characteristics of the current administration and university. People (posters) who operate behind the scenes to further their own agenda, trying to destroy open conversation initiated to try to stimulate thinking in order to improve on current conditions. You are little people with little minds who unfortunately are connected with what may be a temporarily large university. From an out-of-conference impartial view, you are an embarrassment to a fine institution. Know that others log on to your site for inside conference information and tend to be somewhat apalled by the rhetoric here compare to other university blogs. Open and upfront discussion is healthy. Behind the back anonymous remarks are trash. Continue and you will destroy yourself from within and do no favors for the conference or state you are associated with.
Posted by: On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: building champions
what champions? look at this year's aTm's conference championship report. Only women's track did a selling. What is going on. We are full of tradition. Hopefully not tradition of losing.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/25/2009
Comment Title: A&M HAS LOST MORE THAN 4 OUT OF EVERY 10 FOOTBALL GAMES AGAINST BIG 12 CONFERENCE TEAMS!
My personal opinions:_____RC's record against Big 12 teams was 35-23 for.603; losing 4 out of almost every 10 games!_____By comparison, Bob Stoops lost less than 2 out of every 10 games; 73-14 for .830!_____Also Mac Brown lost only 2 out of every 10 games; 73-18 for .801!_____Our current coach is 2-6; losing 3 out ofevery 4 games against Big 12 teams!_____OUR NEXT COACH MUST BE BETTER THAN LOSING 4 OUT EVERY 10 GAMES!!!_____miller58
Posted by: JimBob78 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: Pablo!! I'm calling you out!!!
Just joking Pablo! ---- You are a good Ag! ----- But I disagrre with your statement that Miller and Stars have made a compelling case against Sherman. ---- Miller has never made a case against Sherman and I disagree with the conclusions Stars makes. --- The facts are that Sherman and his staff have shown the ability to coach. Two freshman, coached by this staff, had record setting seasons last year. Special teams, a weakness at the beginning, improved greatly by year end. A non-existant passing attack under Fran was incredibly productive under Sherman and Rossely/Cromwell. ---- The defense's perfromance in 2008 was indicated long before Kines stepped on campus. Reggie Herron promptly resigned after looking at the team and took a job with the Cowboys. ----- The seniors that made the 2008 team mediocre graduated, leaving the Aggies with almost no experience or even bodies in the OL and LBs. ---- Shearman & Kines took on the daunting task of trying to field a D1 team with very thin ranks due to the malfeasance of the previous staff. ---- What is exciting is to see how the current staff repeatedly shows their ability to quickly read and react to the fluid world of college football. ---- Their recruiting tactics show they understand where TAMU is in the current recruiting landscape and how they are trying to give their team an advantage. The defensive scheme and personnel position changes also show that the past 10 years at the highest level of football has equipped them for the monumental challenge they face. ----- Whether or not they are successful remains to be seen and the next two years will tell the tale. ---- I've seen enough indications that the staff is no where the portrait being painted by the naysayers on this message board. ----- Good luck to the Aggies and let's all show up for the bowl game in Shreaveport or Fort Worth or maybe Houston!! ---- Gig'em!!!!
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: What Big 12 coach has the highest in-conference losing percentage?
My personal opinions:_____?_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: Re: miller58
Miller, care to explain yourself? You can't seem to make up your mind.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: Imposters and Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:____The Aggie Spin Machine has stooped to the level of sending albeit, bad imposters to the Aggiesports forum?____Everyone who has kept up with this thread knows that the past 9 miller 58 posts have not been made by me, so I have ignored them.____Stars, can you stand behind what you post? Or could it be that you have an imposter also?____I have been consistent in my convictions that Mike Sherman is an inexperienced coach who hired even more inexerienced coached to his staff. His staff has only signed 1 5* athlete (who would have bolted if tu offered) and only a few low ranked 4*'s along with a bunch of other bodies.____Is this a recipie for winning?____Horrible coaching + horrible recruiting = losing in 2011, 2012, 2013?____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: __________A GOOD COACH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE!
My personal opinions:_____In his first two full seasons of recruiting, Mike Sherman has committed only "8" four star difference makers!_____In his first two full recuiting seasons, Nick Saban signed "40" four and five star difference makers!_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller and Pablo
I have spotted the imposters from time to time. While we disagree on some issues Pablo, I respect your ideas because you put your name on them and don't hide behind a post with no name or steal someone elses name. Those who choose the other route are not sure of their convictions, right or wrong. If it is your OPINION that's great, just stand behind it.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: Seein Stars - even Pablo
My personal opinions:_____Stars, even Pablo, you should be aware that roughly 2/3rds of the posts lately, that are posted by miller58 are made by imposters using my name?_____I just choose to ignore them!_____I know many posts are made by imposters for other posters as well, and it's easy to spot them because the imposters are so dumb about it!____Take the post, miller58 below, where miller58 said "Stars says we have the talent to win 10 games"_____. As many times as we have discussed how most of Sherman's recruits lack the four star speed, athleticism and size to improve our last place Big 12 ranking, obviously that quote is from an imposter!_____ Then in the same imposters post, he adds an element of truth about Sherman possible decommits, after 4*Harris, 4* Johnson, 4* lewis-moore, etc. decommitted Sherman shortly before signing day Feb'08; and then The baylor decommits, the big 6-5 270 4.7 D-Lineman Rico Forbs and the top 4* O-Lineman Ivory Wade last year, of course If Sherman has anybody another team covets, they are likely gone this year by decommit?_____ And finally in the same imposter post, miller 58 saying we'll get tu decommits, and win 7 games is really silly!____- The chances of Sherman stealing a decommit from anyone, the way he recruits, especially mac, is just imopssible; and second tu's commits will be seniors in high school this fall and won't help any university win any 7 games this fall_____If I have an early tee time, lunch with friends, another 9 holes afer lunch, I've come home. opened up a thread with up to 7 miller 58 imposter posts on it, while I was busy doing something else, and not near a computer. ____Stars, I know I've spoted some of your posts made by imposters, because knowing a posters thoughts, on a previously discussed subject, and then a 180 degree turn around, it is going to be an imposter!_____I've opened titles four or five days after they were first made, for the first times and there is miller58 with extensive posts?_____Just remember that there are people posting here that sat on the bench and watched, while A&M was losing more than 4 out of every 10 games to Big 12 opponents, and maybe are maybe a little challenged about it?_____Boy, that was wordy!_____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: PABLO
EARN NATIONAL BID YOU WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH YOUR BIG12 STANDINGS. LOOK AT TEXAS LAST SEASON. ESP. BIG12 IS KNOWN FOR ITS FOOTBALL PROGRAMS.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
I don't think I said we have talent to win 10 games. On that subject, my opinion is we have talent alone to win 7-8 games. Coaching will be an asset or liability to those numbers. My opinion is it will be a liability and we will be a 5-6 win team.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo
Absolutely. If sherman wins 6 or 7 I too say he gets another year. Then we need to be at 9-10 the next year. Here is where our difference of opinion comes in. Some of us are of the opinion it will not happen based on his selection of coaches, his constant changing of schemes and personnel, his apparent lack of knowledge on today's college game (not a knock on his ability, just his situation based on his job experience the last 10 years), and his recruiting efforts or lack thereof. Some of you think in spite of all this he will get it done. If he does, he will have accomplished more with less than most any coach in recent history. If he does, I will also be the first in line with my donation for his contract extension. If he doesn't, I do not expect him to continue beyond this year and based on your post below I expect you to agree.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/24/2009
Comment Title: RE: Pablo
My personal opinions:____EXACTLY!____miller58
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: Sister.. forgot to add this tidbit
About failure.. it happens all the time in sports, you don't win it all (only a select few teams have). Failure is inevitable when you put it all on the line. If you are happy just to be in the running (ala Buffalo, Minnesota pro football) then I think your bar is too low. I want my Aggies to win and freaking win it all! They ARE building winners and football is just at the excavation level IMO.. Miller and Co. have (I have said this before) have built a compelling case against Sherman.. but he will have the final say on the field. If he wins 6-7 games, I say he gets another year.. after that, we need to see like 10 or more... that takes time. That we are willing to give him that time does not mean we are settling for mediocrity, no we just need to give him time. I'm talking years.. the payoff is a National Championship, not the Big 12 South.
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: Sister some clarification please...
Define success and failure in football. Here's mine, success = national championships... failure = everyone else. Now who is settling?
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: Chicken Littles gone crazy!
Same 'ole stuff huh fellas? Fresh out of ideas I see.. you can do better, just try!
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: More decommitts on the way?
My personal opinions:____With four star safety Dixon turning down a A&M offer and going to baylor, who will A&M lose to Briles?____Seeing Stars pointed out that Sherman has 10-win talent.____I disagree with that, however we may win 7 if we get a few tu committs to switch to A&M?____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: __________________THE SEASON IS OVER!!! REMEMBER???
My personal opinions:_____The season is over!_____A&M coaching lost 7 blowouts and Arkansas State before the season was over!_____We ended up with coaching ranked "dead last" in a national publication, a team ranked #89 by Sagarin and dead last in the Big 12 South before the season was over!_____REMEMBER??????????_____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: Re- Pablo
Thank God for small favors !!!!!
Posted by: Pablo On: 5/23/2009
Comment Title: This just in...
Season has not started.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: FOUR STAR SAFETY AHMAD DIXON 6-1 194 4.5 COMMITS!
My personal opinions:_____The good news is Dixon decommitted from tu!_____The bad news is Dixon committed to baylor!_____Dixon turned down offers from A&M, tech, tcu, ou, florida, arkansas and 'bama to play for the bears!_____Correction to the title of the post immediately below; should read A&M has no four star defensive players committed---!_____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: OUR 3RD SIGNING CLASS IS FULL AND WE HAVE NOT A SINGLE COMMIT WITH 4 STAR SPEED, ATHLETICISM AND SIZE?
My personal opinions:_____Does this mean our defense is in great shape and we don't need any more help?_____Does it mean Sherman's evaluation and recruiting of defensive players is just that bad?_____Does it mean we will or won't have multiple 40+ point loses this year?_____Which is it?_____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: AGGIES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmEAo-nzBgY
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: RE: Sister
When considering moving a young QB from a dual-threat scheme to a pro-style scheme one of the first things that comes to mind, after verifying the downfield arm strength accuracy necessary for some of the pro-style verticle game, is mental make-up. The quick and accurate decision making capability required for multiple receiver check-down progressions in the pro-style differs from the reads being made in the option game. Also, how will the young star take to being moved from a legitimate run threat to a ball "distributor". Will he tend to flush out quicker because he is accustomed to running thereby cutting off his receiver read progression too soon. Or will he just react to a perceived opening and take off because it is what he has been trained to do for several years. On the other hand, switching from pro-style to dual-threat or run-option brings up the question of toughness. Does he have the internals to stick his nose upfield against a linebacker or safety, take the hits, and keep coming back (Tebow) or is he easily dinged up. Is he happier being the intellectual ball distributor. Questions both ways for sure and that is why I think you should verify each type at the high school level before assuming they can produce at the college level. There are a lot of people who make big money for their decisions in these matters so let's hope we have a few of those types onboard.
Posted by: Sister On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: to Seeing Stars
So how do you know if a dual threat quarterback can be a good pro style quarterback. What are some disadvantages.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
I have ABSOLUTELY no idea. Recruit evaluation sources differentiate between "pro-style" and "dual-threat" quarterbacks which further illustrates the fact that there is a significant difference. Can one be turned into the other? Yes they can but it would seem you would want to see confirmation of that on the field in high school and secondly, if he is better suited the other way then maybe his high school would adopt that scheme while he is there unless they were just completely void of critical skill players for certain positions. Don't know the answer. My question for you is this. I do not understand some of the details of today's recruiting information. For instance, Zach Lee does not have A&M listed under his twelve college choices. Does that mean he told them "don't bother with an offer" or did we say "don't bother with a request"? Why would a kid like that not even have us on his list (assuming he likes the direction of our program over the next few years). Or have we determined he has some "character" issues we are not comfortable with. He sure seems to have everything else ALONG WITH A 4.8 GPA and smarts is what keeps a lot of pro-style QB's from achieving full potential. It is absolutely critical in that offense. So is it him or us that is not remotely interested?
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: RE: Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:_____Stars, please dont ask me what's up with our west coast offense and quarternacks?_____You're the X's and 0's man!_____All I know is A&M committed 3 quarterbacks all 3*: 3* Jamiell Showers, 3* Matt Joeckel and 3* clay Honneycutt?_____All the other Big 12 South teams have 4*/5* quarterbacks committed or on campus?_____tu has Heisman McCoy that blew us out, 5* Gilbert and 4* Wood;_____ Baylor has soph 4* Griffin that blew us out this year, for 3 more seasons?_____ou has Heisman Bradford that blew us out and 4* Blake Bell.____tech blew us out and has 4*Scotty Young._____okie lite has Zac Robibson that blew us out and 4*Johnny Deaton._____Missouri has Texan 4* James Franklin._____ and Texan 4* Zac Lee has multiple good offers?_____Stars, please explain to me, why A&M is going this route?_____Is it just Sherman's continual poor evaluation, and inability to recruit 4*/5* players; or is this a good thing??????????_____ miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: RE: Sister
My personal opinions:_____EXACTLY!_____miller58
Posted by: Sister On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: to Tampa Ag
If you think you somehow do something positive for your school by supporting failing programs and people just because of some good old boy connection then you are also part of the problem. Your honor, I submit Tampa Ag and those like him as evidence of how we got to where we are today. When you think its wrong, say why and produce evidence. When you think its right, say why and produce evidence. Otherwise its more like a cult than anything else.
Posted by: Sister On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: to Crocker
Sherman does have the talent to win 10 games but he doesnt have the coaching. Big difference. and if you are in the state of texas and you equate swimming or diving with football you need to move to new hampshire or somewhere. If one school wins swimming and one school football and you say they are even then you are not clued in to athletics. Next you will say the total ropster numbers of one winning sport against the total roster of another sport determines the overall winner.
Posted by: AUSTIN VS BCS- ECONOMY On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: FAGGIES IN CLOSET STATION...HAHAH
CALL US T-SIPS, F A G S, @ LEAST WE ARE COMFORTABLE OUT. TAKE THAT STATE FARM TROPHY AND SHOVE IT AND YOU MIGHT ENJOY IT. SCHOOL IS SO GAY U GUYS DON'T EVEN HAVE CHEERLEADERS. INSTEAD HAVE CHEERBOYS. NOW WHO IS MORE FAGGIER...FAGGIES!
Posted by: On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: Re: Crocker R.A.T.
Head to Head winner but not nationally acclaimed. Sorry dude, my family are A&M Alum but on this one i would say we should have a national power team to acclaim that we are that of a rival. Heck...they don't even call it rivalry not. For the horns, their focus is on OU. The series speaks louder. We are so down that we can't even brag our national title back in 1939 and that was b4 world war 2 - that stinks. We only have what less than 10 national titles of all athletics program. UT, OU, Ok State and Nebraska- now those teams have multiple NCAA and big12 championships. Yeah, for now Ags lead the series coz that the only way we can appreciate our state level and not being a national contention.
Posted by: Tampa Ag On: 5/22/2009
Comment Title: Re; Crokcer R.A.B.
Bet miller58 doesn't even know what R.A.B. means. Any regular reader knows miller's not an Ag. He changes his story around to suit his purpose. One week it's how horrible Sherm is in recruiting. Tbe next week it's how Sherm has enough talent on campus to win 10 or 11 games, etc. I guess it depends on if he's smoking crack or smoking ganja that particular week. Either one'll fry your brain - I present as evidence exhibit No. 1, miller58, your honor. miller 58, what are we to do with you? The Ags win a cool competition and all you do is belittle it. poor t-sip. That's really what you are, isn't it, miller58? Just a snot-nosed t-sip.
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: A win for the Good Guys
Hey miller58. Changing your story again? Two months ago you went on about how Sherman has enough talent to win 10 or 11 games this year. Now you say A&M has sooooooooo looonnnnggggggggg to go; Sherman can't recruit, etc. Another thing, this article isn't even about football or the football team. It's about A&M beating the t-sips (again) in an overall head-to-head athletic competition over the course of an entire school year. Don't kid yourself. This is an important and relevant accomplishment-it means A&M is again the top dog in a sports-crazed state. Don't kid yourself - the athletic department is about more than the football team. Don't kid yourselves - the tsips are plenty pissed about it (just read some of the comments on the Austin paper's website). For years Aggies wanted an athletic program that could best the t-sips. And now we have one. Celebrate miller58. Don't run it down. Be positive. Congratulate the programs that are competing for and winning championships and be hopeful for those that are trying to rebuild. FYI: the only Aggie varsity programs NOT competing for and winning championships are the womens volleyball and mens football. The other 14 varsity sport are. That's an 87.5% success ratio. Chew on that for awhile
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE; SeeingStars
My personal opinions:_____Stars, " could not be more wrong" was not posted by me, I just ignored it, so I can't explain it either!_____Very very insecure is all I can think of, if a head coach can't ask questions, or bring in bright young experienced coaches to help._____I made my living as a young manager by hiring the brightest most experienced people I could find, gave them room to operate, monitoring until I had complete confidence in them, and asking every question in the book; and this aproach still works well today!_____The selection of 9 assistants with no experience recruiting top players, just spoke volumes about, not even knowing how to approach this job, as a first time college head coach._____ At lest Pelini had Dr Tom to counsel him._____Sherman had no college head coach experience,and has no one with mnc experience to even counsel him?_____By the way, if Pelini signs 7 more four star commits this year (He has 3 four stars out of 4 commits now), you are looking at the next stoops/brown level coach on the fast track!____Pelini taking over a team at A&M's talent level, going 9-4 with a bowl win, and now if he falls in that 10 to 22 difference maker signing range in this, his first full year of recruiting, Nebraska has a coach that is half way to greatness?_____If only we had a Dr. Tom who had been thru the mnc wars, to guide the selection and then give advice to a new coach, I'd feel a lot more confident._____We just simply cant stand a repeat of the last 15 years of coaching retention/selection!_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title:
Miller, I think sometimes coaches returning to the college ranks from the pro side tend to believe than no college coach could possibly know as much as they do about the game and they tend to be shy about asking one of them for insight or help for fear of losing respect. I thought at the time it was a huge mistake for Sherman to return, after such an extended absence, to a game that had changed so much and not bring with him one or two up-to-date coordinators that were familiar with the "modern" game (especially Big-12 football). This is not an extended training camp for coaches and aggies will not wait 3/4/5 years for him to show signs of life. The ones on the really short end of the stick are the players. I feel for them. (p.s., I missed your message with "could you be more wrong". ???????)
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE: Seeing Stars- The Aggie Spin Machine?
My personal opiions:_____Stars, dont you love it whwn the Aggie Spin Machine tells us "how great Sherman is doing for three classes in a row, and with all that speed"?_____Then comes time to belly up, and we don't even have any depth out of 59 players Sherman has signed, and will all be on campus all this summer and all fall camp?_____The two things just don't compute!_____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: Re; Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:____Could you be more wrong?____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58 (ND vs A&M situation)
Been going for a while now. 2008 quote from MAXSPORTZ: "Though he is a couple of years late, Fr Jenkins needs to send this non-football playing, drama major packing. If he doesn't maybe someone will send Fr Jenkins packing"........Sounds like a plan to me.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE; Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:_____Stars, you are exactly right!_____We do not have a depth problem at any position!_____Sherman will have signed over 5 teams of 55 players + 4 others, that are all on Kyle Field this fall?_____That's depth of over 2 1/2 players at each and every position on defense and offense at A&M!_____We do have mostly slow, low athleticism and smaller players for depth, because Sherman evaluated and brought in almost 59 of them._____ Ton's of fish and sophs start for the best D1 schools every year, but they are mostly 4*/5* players .____ Most of the 59 players Sherman has brought in just don't even have the four star speed, athleticism and size to make even decent backups for depth, it appears?_____Every time the Aggie Spin Machine says we are recruiting speed, and we check it out, it's found to be just not true!_____We can lead Sherman to the recruiting evaluation trough, but we can't him force him to evauate and to sign quality four star speed and athletic players._____Every time, the last three signing classes are discussed, i've pointed out that low ranked leftovers will falsely inflate our recruiting ranking higher, but will only increase the number of 40+ point blow out losses on Kyle field for years to come._____We know what a terrible job Sherman has done evaluating and signing commits, but the same AGGIE Spin Machine that gave us "10 new coaches with emphasis on recruiting", also gave us "what a great job Sherman is doing recruiting"_____Then why the hell aren't there any A&M depth, in these 59 players Sherman has signed?____I guess the notre Dame Spin Machine is also being called out strongly in the national press for conventiently leaving out of the media guide, Weis's bad '07 season and his losing seasons at the patriots; did you catch that yet?_____Maybe some day, A&M and it's Spin Machine can be important enough to be called out in the national press, as well as on local blogs? _____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
(I missed one. We have three. Still doesn't solve the problem). My opinion is that position by position, player by player, this staff would have difficulty showing the last couple of classes are superior to talent they already have on the roster. Repeating again, we are about to send some unarmed men into battle with this hybrid (split) defense and defense will be the undoing of the current program. A west coast offense without a very smart, quick thinking, experienced triggerman will also be a liability. I also notice Showers is listed as a pro-style QB this year when he was a dual-threat QB last year (132 rushes, 230 passes). What's up with that? It will be interestin to say the least.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: Re: Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:_____Stars, we have 23 0-Linemen that will be on campus this fall!_____That's almost twice as many as ou, by comparison!_____We will have 4 four stars Schumert, williams, allen, lewis and Remington nominee Kevin mathews, as well as Grimes, Elkie, Patterson, Baker, Joe V and 13 other Sherminites!_____A majority of our 2 deep will have gone through two Sherman spring, summer and fall camps, and almost all have started multiple games?_____ Of course that is with coaching that has been rated "dead last" in a national puplication, so that "lack depth" is just the AGGIE Spin Machine covering for poor coaching!_____Our real problem comes in 2010, '11, and beyond because of our terrible recruiting for 4 classes._____Quick examples, our Big 12 opponents get almost all the top players in Texas, and we get almost all low ranked leftovers:_____This year alone from Texas, tu got two 4*'s, ou got two 4*'s and arkansas has a four star; Then last year tu got two 4*'s and a 5*, baylor got 4* A&M decommit Ivory Wade and A california 4*, notre dame and lsu each got 4*'s and ou got 4* Jarvis Jones from lsu: then the previous year tu got two 4*'s, ou got a 5* and a 4*, and osu got a 4*!_____These are all top quality signees._____ And in Sherman's first four recruiting classes in progress, we get almost all low ranked leftovers from the schools mentioned above'_____Same old story, we hired 10 coaches with a terrible record of signing top 4*/5* recruits, and nothing has changed after four signing classes in progress!_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: Make that TWO 4 "STAR" commits in post below
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58 (the real one)
Everyone says we have problems with depth on the offensive line. With sherman's hyped pedigree and hyped nfl success why is it we only have TWO 48 offensive line commits out of THREE classes ('08, '09, '10) to date??? If you can't recruit to your strength it may explain why you can't recruit in general.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: SOMEONE USING MY USERNAME TO SPIN AGGIE LOSING?
My personal opinions:____?____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: RE: A&M HAS LOST MORE THAN 4 OUT OF EVERY 10 GAMES TO BIG 12 OPPONENTS SINCE JOINING THE BIG 12!
Why?
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/21/2009
Comment Title: Re; Seeing Stars and Aggie Spin Machine?
My personal opinions:____Mike Sherman and his seven other coaches just lost a committ to Stoops? Is true that the only coach who can hang on to four and five star differnce makers is Fran's worst recruiter-Van Malone?____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/20/2009
Comment Title: RE: MILLER
YOUR FACT SHEET IS EMBARASSING. AS MUCH AS I HATE YOU FOR BEING BLUNT, YOU DO HAVE POINT
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/20/2009
Comment Title: A&M HAS LOST MORE THAN 4 OUT OF EVERY 10 FOOTBALL GAMES TO BIG 12 OPPONENTS SINCE THE MID 90's?!
My personal opinions:_____A&M football employees, players, Administration, and even the Aggie Spin Machine don't talk about it, but we've lost more than 4 out of every 10 football games to Big 12 opponents, since way back at the start in the mid 90's! The records are:_____ RC's players lost 23 of 58 games, against Big 12 opponents .603 ?_____By comparison, Mac Brown's players have lost only 18 of 91, against Big 12 opponents .801; losing only 2 out of every 10 !_____Bob Stoop's player are even better, losing only 14 of 87, against Big 12 opponents .830, losing less than 2 out of every 10._____A&M's current coach's player are losing 6 of 8 so far, and expected to lose more than they win again this this upcomming season?_____Can't A&M administration and Regents at least pay as much as tu and ou, and get us a good coach this time?_____miller58
Posted by: On: 5/20/2009
Comment Title: WELL SAID CESSNA
AGGIES DEFINITELY NEED TO STEP UP. THINK NOT OF TEXAS ONLY. KEEP FOCUSING ON NATIONAL CONTENTIONS. LONESTAR STATE TROPHY IS COOL BUT NOT OF RELEVANCE -ON A NATIONAL STAGE. COZ ALL PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS REGIONAL/STATE REPRESENTATION ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. UT HAS 51 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS AND COUNTING AND WELL REPRESENTED ON OLYMPICS AND NOT TO MENTION HAS QUITE AN ACTIVE CURRENT ROSTER IN THE NFL. WHILE AGGIES HAVE LIKE LESS THAN 10 NATIONAL TITLES SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSITY. AND THE LAST FOOTBALL TITLE WAS WAY B4 WORLD WAR 2. WW II? ATHLETICS DEPT DESERVE NO RESPECT FOR THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS.
Posted by: On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title:
"I would rather kill myself than go through another season of any sport with the embarassment that I have had to endure!" Hard to believe he biggest embarassment hasn't been your own post
Posted by: millerr58 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: Lone Star Showdown trophy
My personal opinions_____what you people don't realize is that winning this trophy means $17million to the local B/CS economy_____and that figure is an annual figure_____I like playing with figures_____I have a G.I. Joe and the rarely seen Action Jackson doll_____I gotta get me one them new Wolverine action figures_____back to the economic impact, the tour groups that flock to Aggieland to see the Showdown trophy spend millions each year, just to see the trophy_____I need to go now_____I need to go mix up another Nyquil and Bacardi______millerr58
Posted by: aggie96 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: GET IT STRAIGHT 58
I suggest you have your fact straight before you "pop-off" about any sport for that matter at it relates to Aggie athletics. Everyone knows and doesn't disagree that there is definately room for improvement, but berating anything good doesn't help you or your "embarrassment". Short of the most recent 2nd round of the NCAA Tourney, we have not been blown out. In '06, we lost by ONE point to LSU (No 2 seed). In '07, we lost by ONE point to Memphis (No 1 seed). In '08, we lost by TWO points to UCLA (No. 1 seed). Get it straight. Also, I presume by your handle, that you are the Class of '58. Winning Championships? Yes, you had The Bear for time while you were there, but as I recall, they only went to one Bowl Game and lost to Tennessee. What championships are you talking about? And Jim Myers did a fine job in '58 going 4-6. Since you have it all figured out, I am sure Sherman, Turgeon, and Byrne are "chomping at the bit" to get you on board.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: NOT ME POSTING BELOW, JUST SOMEONE USING MY NAME?
My personal opinions:_____There really lots of beautiful lady Aggies, that can play sports really well; and I wish you wouldn't get me in dutch with them by your post below!_____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: I AM SORRY FOR MY BASKETBALL MISTAKE!
My personal opinions:_____Well its not an opinion nobody cares about basketball but I guess we didn't do as bad as I said, even though beating Mormons doesn't really count as winning basketball and the refs pretty much gave us those first round games anyway. We still always go on and get embarassed by double digits in every second round game so whats the difference since we are not winning mncs!!!_____No difference maker has ever come to A&M since we made the mistake of getting rid of the Italian Stallion Fran or the amazing Billy Gillespie. Who cares about Pat Henry! Just admit the mistakes and move on and bring back winning coaches._____When I was at A&M only winning championships was accepted but now you are all soft whiners that don't understand modern college sports.____I would rather kill myself than go through another season of any sport with the embarassment that I have had to endure!____miller58
Posted by: OlJock99 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: Attn Miller:
"A lot of work to be done until we quit losing in the first round of the ncaa March Madness" We haven't lost in the 1st round of the NCAA "March Madness" in the past four years. Get a clue. Better yet, just go away.
Posted by: Ken '94 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: Build on the progress
Cessna's article is on target (and Liar58's post is not, as always). A&M's a football school, and no other accomplishments alleviate the pain of losing on the gridiron. But, this is Sherm's second year and I personally expect improvement. I think you can also point to basketball as a major success area -- it's come a long way in a very short time! Overall, I think Byrne & Co. deserve kudos for retaining the Lone Star Trophy, and I'm sure they would be the first to say that they know there's still work to be done.
Posted by: miller58 On: 5/19/2009
Comment Title: YES THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE!
My personal opinions:_____A lot of work has to be done until a new head football coach is bringing in 14 four and five star difference makers each year to get the 66 to 78 on our squad, to compete for the Big !2 and the mnc every year, just like tu and ou do every year now?_____A lot of work to be done until a new basketball coach is bringing in the 3 to 4 four and five star difference maker basketball players each year, to give us a squad of 13 to 18 difference makers to enable us to compete for the final four every year, just like ku does now?_____A lot of work to be done until we quit averaging 4 Big 12 conference football games lost out of every 10, like we have done since we first joined the Big 12?_____A lot of work to be done until we quit losing in the first round of the ncaa March Madness.____A lot of people that think this last 20 years was A&M just being satisfied losing; and never even making it to even play in the mnc or the ncaa in basketball, while tu and ou both won mnc's, and ku won the ncaa in basketball._____The people that are content to be also rans for the last 20 years have to change now, or be eliminated from A&M's campus now; and let people that know how and want this great university to be winners, get that job done._____Real winning is not being accmplished now at any level?_____miller58

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