By Robert Cessna
robert.cessna@theeagle.com
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Texas A&M football coach Mike Sherman is a good teacher because he listens, then acts. He also has a pretty good sense of humor.
Central Baptist Church pastor Chris Osborne gave kudos to the Texas A&M men’s golf team for winning the national championship last week. The quick-witted Osborne is great at tying current events into his sermon.
Osborne, who is passionate about playing golf, couldn’t help but brag that A&M head coach J.T. Higgins gave Osborne an A&M golf bag during the season.
“I have a bag just like they do,” said Osborne, adding that God knows what sport matters, and of course giving that bag to Osborne did matter.
Well, Osborne a week later was sporting an Aggie football helmet as he walked to the pulpit, which got plenty of laughs. It was a gift from the Aggie head coach even though he probably got it from Billy Pickard.
Osborne read a note from Sherman, who said he wanted to make sure he was covering all his bases.
Sherman also wrote a couple of inscriptions on the helmet.
“Gig ’em and God Bless” was on the front, while on the back Sherman told Osborne to remember that a great sermon has a good beginning and a good ending, and you try to squish them together as soon as possible.
It was most enjoyable.
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Sherman also is taking part in the Boys & Girls Club’s Celebrity Golf Classic at Miramont Country Club on Monday.
Most of the celebrities showed up the dinner gala and auction Sunday night.
Former defensive backs Toya Jones and Rich Coady, wide receiver Matt Bumgardner and quarterback Randy McCown graced the table I was at for several minutes. It was great talking to those guys. They were tremendous young men when they played at A&M and it’s great to see them back helping out a good cause in Aggieland. They certainly represent the university well. I also talked with former defensive lineman Tank Marshall. I hadn’t seen him in decades. It was great seeing all those guys.
It’s challenging covering personalities and events, but lasting friendships are what help make sports so rewarding.
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Posted by: Sister On: 6/14/2009
Comment Title: RE; crocker r a b
Good idea with only two problems. No talent being brought in and no coaching familiar with ncaa or b-12 football. If this perspective is wrong we would see the six or seven wins this year as the post below suggests. Not a Big12 championship, not first place in the south, just six or seven wins and a low tier bowl. It won't happen.
Posted by: On: 6/14/2009
Comment Title:
Absolutely Crocker. You watch him bring in TALENT each year then DEVOLOP that talent. So far the talent has been very, very weak and the development nearly non-existant. Less than 6 or 7 wins this season will further substantiate this opinion.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/14/2009
Comment Title: EVERY YEAR DIVISION 1 COACHES ARE LET GO AFTER ! YEAR?
My personal opinions:_____Sherman has 5 signing classes and 2 seasons in progress?_____Among others, Billy clyde was let go after 2 seasons, coach Franklin after a half season, Coach Lane Kiffin after 1 season, etc,, just last year?_____miller58
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/13/2009
Comment Title: Re: Objective Homer
Geez, Sherman's only been there one season. You can't judge a guy by only one season. You have to give him time to bring his players in and get them experience. That's not what the Aggie Spin Machine says. It's what every coach in every sport at every school in the country says. A minimum of 5 years.
Posted by: LiberalLibertarian On: 6/11/2009
Comment Title: Sad
Sorry to see in the thread below that the athletic conditions present at my beloved school have caused two respected posters to be so upset with each other. I am personally friends with Lt. Col Chris Godoeke (ret) - Tommy Frank's right hand man in the Gulf and perhaps the most accomplished marine fighter pilot or just fighter pilot my brain could imagine, yet my Father was an army airborne ranger/paratrooper (jump master) and served in Korea before settling down to become the best of Dad's a guy could hope for. The reason I say that info? Because it tears me apart to see two "rock the good ags" tear into each other, especially two servicemen. It's like seeing two corp turds fight at the quad......you just don't 'cause it never happens. Let's all take a step back and remember that we don't lose anyway, we get outscored and it ain't because Fran and Sherm can't coach, goddamit we didn't yell loud enough! Keeping in mind that I have two Arkansas Hogs and one Longhorn where I'm getting my pay, that can't hold my jock in science because they attended inferior universities - let's show respect to each other for no other reason than the reason we went to A&M.....FOR THE EDUCATION. (exit soapbox left)
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/11/2009
Comment Title: RE: Crocker R.A.B.
My personal opinions:____I have never said that Turgeon was not a great recruiter.____I have said that he is a terrible coach, however?____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/11/2009
Comment Title: Mike Sherman unable to close the deal with top recruits?
My personal opinions:____I'm sure a some point Mike Sherman was a good coach.____To some extent he still is, but when you fail to close the deal with numerous 4*/5* difference makers, does this horrible recruiting and coaching rub off on future recuits?____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: What coach has the highest percentage of losing in the Big 12?
My personal opinions:____?____miller58
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: Another commit
Hey miller58. Did you see Turgeon added another 4* recruit to his 2010 class. That's two commits, both of whom are 4*. Last year only 1 of four players signed was a 4*. But the year before that, two of the three players signed were 4*. So if the 2010 class signed today, then of Turgeon's 9 recruits, 5 would be 4*. And you say he can't recruit??? Shame on you for spreading lies, half-truths, and disinformation.
Posted by: Objective_Homer On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: Sister
This sherman horse is still in last place. The race started before last season and he hasnt done a thing to indicate passing any other horses. defensive staff nor scheme has changed. All he is done is switch all the players to positions they arent used to playing. This year is going to be ugly. Nothing and I mean NOTHING shows me otherwise. Kids are leaving town left and right. All i read is bs spin stories by bob cesna. anything more then 5 W's will be an amazing feat. I'm sure sherman is a great humanitarian but we need better schemes and better recruiters. Sherman has shown ZERO signs of improvement in any catagory.
Posted by: Sister On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: HORSE RACE
If any of you watched "Mine That Bird" in the recent triple crown races you noted he started at the rear. As he went around the track, he kept gaining position. First passing this horse then that horse til he won or was very near the top. MILESTONES. Need to pass a couple of horses this year (improve the record, improve the defense, improve the offense) or you juist might get sent to the glue factory.As far as quotes go, you can find anything you want. Take for example the ASTROS and Manager Cecil Cooper. Houston Chronicle, May 28, 2009: "losses are mounting, veterans are grumbling, and manager cecil cooper doesnt seem to have the answers. Is it time for a change?" and "SO NOW CECIL COOPER WANTS ACCOUNTABILITY. FUNNY HE CHOSE TO START WITH SOMEONE OTHER THAN HIMSELF". and "He was given the kind of opportunity thousands of coaches would die for. Yet he never seemed to embrace the role, never seemed comfortable". and "Cooper could have pointed out hes not the best communicator, not the best at building relationships". Quotes that may or may not fit. And it was YOU guys on the other side who said "it's sherman's way or the highway. Change your attitude or hit the street". ...."You need to get in the boat or get left behind".
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: TODAY'S POOR COACHING AND WORSE RECRUITING?
My personal opinions:_____Mike Sherman continued to prove that he can't even sign tu's leftovers, when he lost his 13th offer in the recent weeks?_____This time the commit chose to sign with tcu!_____Turning down Sherman's offer was San Antonio's Cornerback John Jay 5-10 175 4.4 to play at tcu?_____miller58
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: Impatience
There'a also stupid impatience. Firing a guy after one season might be the poster child of stupid impatience. Jackie Sherrill, Bear Bryant, and Emory Bellard all would've been fired under your measurement, miller58. I think they won only seven or eight games between them during their first season. Yet their tenures at A&M all turned out pretty well in general. Only those living in an unrealistic world, chasing after unrealistic expectations would want Sherman fired after just one season. And "NO" Iraq Ag, I didn't just read that some column. It's original material that I came up with myself.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: THERE IS GOOD PATIENCE AND THERE IS STUPID PATIENCE?
My personal opinions:_____The Aggie Spin Machine will lie to you about which is which; about what is good improvement patience, and what is stupid regression patience?_____You must see measured short term improvement for good long term patience?_____ Charlie Weis has signed recruiting classes of 12, 13, 19. and 10 difference makers after the previous coach signed classes of 2, 3, and 8 difference makers!_____Charlie has not won big yet, but there is improvement every year in total talent; that's good patience!_____Nick Saban went 6-6 his first year!_____Signed 22 difference makers his next year and went 12-0 regular season._____ That's good patience!_____Rich Rodrequez went 3-9 his first year and signed 14 difference makers. _____That's good patience!_____A&M committed 14 difference makers in '07. Sherman signed only 7 difference makers in Feb'08; that's regression and stupid patience!_____Sherman signed only 5 difference makers the next year: that's more regression and stupid patience!_____Now Sherman has committed just 3 difference makers, none on defense, in the current class; that's even more regression and stupid patience?_____Now we have 71 players signed and committed personally by Sherman, of the 85 ncaa allowed that are mostly slower and lower ranked than what was here when Sherman was hired in November'07, with 10 less signed difference makers now?_____Those 71 players are mostly a living bare cupboard, an 89th ranked team at the end of last season. a team ranked last by every national publication, i've seen this year, and a coaching staff ranked at the botton?_____That is stupid patience bordering on incompetence>_____AS of today, we are ranked in talent behind tu, ou, nebraska, arkansas, and tied with okie lite if today were signing day?_____That's real stupid patience!_____miller58
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: Impatience
There was a good article in the San Antonio paper about Pat Henry, the Aggies track and field coach. One of the things he was quoted as saying caught my attention. "Not everybody fits your program or your philosophy about sport and how we're trying to operate. There are always extenuating circumstances, but in the coaching profession, it's going to take you five years to get your people in place." Before someone pops off about what a poor coach Mike Sherman or Mark Turgeon is, or how Sherman has run off a bunch of players because they liked Fran, they need to take the time to consider Henry's statement. It's going to take Sherman a minimum of four seasons to turn the program around, so foreget about the instant gratification that American society has you all addicted to. Some good things still take time to achieve.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: RE: SPI DOD
My personal opinions:_____SPI DOD, you ask 3 questions?_____ First about A&M media, talk to any radio, tv or print reporter "OFF THE RECORD" and just ask them about, if control on what they report about A&M is exercised, and if they fear access to do their job, will be denied?_____ I have talked to media people, and you might be surprised at the answers, if they trust you enough to keep identity safe?_____Obviously, they are not going public, if they fear their access to do their job, might be denied!_____Second, any current player might fear if they were to speak out publically, That their playing time, and even their scholarship might possibly be in danger for "attitude" or other considerations?_____Third, the "attitude of accepting losing" just might have been fostered for years, when RC's record against Big 12 teams of 35-23 (losing 4 out of almost every ten games) plus also losing to a majority of ranked teams and ranked bowl teams almost every year occurred?_____Sherman's own Big 12 record of 2-6, plus 7 blow out losses and arkanss state, while playing true fish he personally recruited, certainly helped, huh?_____SPI DOD, I will be glad to answer any questions?_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/10/2009
Comment Title: RE: Iraq Ag
Another opinion on attacking style defenses. You seem to indicate that attacking defenses are defenses that are running all over the field in suicide attack mode. Attacking defenses can be defined in other terms as pro-active defenses. In other words, through experience, coaching, and a lot of time in video you begin to see how offenses are trying to influence you and what their objective is. You then, as a unit, identify sets and motions and personnel groups along with down and distance and game situation to be more pro-active and beat the offense or your man to their spot rather than waiting for plays to develop and reacting which would result in complete failure (see last year) when you are facing superior athletes. It is nothing more than being totally familiar with todays offenses and the opposing teams style and personality. When you begin to beat the offense at their own game it appears you are attacking and leads to comments like, "they seemed to know our plays all day and what we were about to run". This is my personal take on Kines. Nothing wrong with an attacking style defense but you better be totally familiar with the opponents offense before you start coaching players on it. I am still lost on the reason for the focus on the pass defense (jack LB) when we were absolutely hammered with the run last year. As far as the payroll and the Chavis incident, you are correct. The rest of the post could have been stated another way. Separating the isuues, thanks for what you do. You are appreciated.
Posted by: SPI DOD On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: Iraq Ag
You've thrown out a challenge and I'll answer it with one of my own. What is your source that says the media must report what the Ath Dept wants reported or they'll be denied access? How many players lost their scholarships due to their support for Fran? And the source please. Who was dismissed from the team under the guise of a bad attitude? And the source please. I did see an article to the affect that Sherman was disappointed to see that "an attitude which accepted losing" had become ingrained in the program since he left. Finally, anyone reading miller58's post know he's not repeating stuff from the print media - it's so far off base both the writer and the editor would get canned for running a story with some of his b.s. in it.
Posted by: Tampa Ag On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: Iraq Ag
Your logic is flawed, iraq ag. First you blast all the posters for doing "nothing more than repeating a line" they read in a newspaper article. Then you ask for a source. When it comes to Texas A&M football news, it mostly comes from those same articles. If you want a source, fine. Just don't rididule it. Second, a lot of those players left this spring because they didn't want to wake up at 5am in order to show up for a 6am practice. Sherman wasn't weeding out those with a "bad attitude". He was weeding out all the non-hackers who didn't have a burning desire to be there. If you need a source for that, look at various B-CS Eagle articles.
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: Iraq Ag
How long has it been since you got laid?? You need to go to Dubai or wherever it is over there for a weekend and get yourself some Russian puntang. Cool off - what you wrote sounds ugly, very ugly. The only one guilty of belonging to a cult around here is miller58. Attacking someone's Aggie-ness and such is hitting wayyyyy to far below the belt. I hope you look back at that post in a week or so and see how you sound. There's enough venom going back and forth on this site between miller58 and his supports and those who are sick of his same tired old lines.
Posted by: On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: Iraq Ag
First, you little army fagot, I spent four years in the Regiment before flying missions for the USMC. Give me your name and location so I can go over to the Sand Box and kick your a---. You just pissed off a Marine fighter pilot. You want a source - it was in the goddam B-CS Eagle, you pathetic army runt.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: Iraq Ag
My personal opinions:_____Iraq Ag, exactly, very well said!_____miller58
Posted by: Iraq Ag On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re- vmfa-314 Ag
There is a difference between a religion and a cult. Some of you take on cult-like characteristics with your babble which is nothing more than repeating a line you read in a newspaper article somewhere and follow without question or inquiry even when your statements fly in the face of all logic. Sherman's payroll is 2 million for asst coaches, #2 in the B-12. I suggest you ask for a refund. If he has that kind of money maybe he will consider a contribution to the athletic dept for a million or two like fran did. Attacking style defense? Attack from the rear maybe. You dont attack spread schemes you out-manuever them on defense. They have the scheme advantage. You have to keep it off balance. You attack SEC run option games which is all kines knows. Remember, the fellow had been out of work a while before he came here. Sherman surprised at depth to which attitude and moral had sunk? Source please. I doubt it. Ask McGee what he thought of franchione. Enough of them stood behind him so strongly it cost them their scholarship and ended their football career in the name of bad attitude. What do you think these players think when the read "Chavis never lived up to expectations".. What support from the media who they all know follows the athletic dept mantra or they will be denied access in some form or another. You call yourself an Aggie !! You have the talking part done. Now stand up and be one !
Posted by: vmfa-314 Ag On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title:
Having faith in a football coach his first two or three years as he rebuilds is like religion. Either you believe in him or you don't. I personally believe he can rebuild the Aggie football program. I like that he accepted a lower salary so he could pay his coordinators more, that allowed him to hire better coordinators. I like his offensive philosophy: a power-running game and a pro-style passing attack that integrates the tight-end. And I like his defensive philosophy: attacking style of defense that attempts to dictate the action, rather than the read-react defensive philosophy of Fran. Miller58 doesn't have faith in Sherman because he says Sherman can't recruit and he can't coach. So far I don't see either one being the case. Once he gets his players on campus and they have some experience, we'll find out if he can coach. The one thing that worries me is that Sherman was surprised at the depth to which the attitude and moral had sunk - he is on record as saying that, by the way. When he left in 1995 (or whenever), the players didn't even think about losing. When he came back in December 2007, he was shocked at the culture of losing that had grown up since he'd departed. That takes more than two recruiting classes and one season to change. Anyone expecting a quick turnaround in the second or third year is going to be disappointed. Fran had the chance to do that (although he didn't) because he inherited a much better situation from RC. But Sherman walked into a program at it's lowest point since Emory Bellard was hired back in 1972. Bellard won only two games his first year and not many more than that his second year, but he won a share of the SWC title his fourth year. It takes time.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: MIKE SHERMAN"s POOR COACHING AND EVEN WORSE RECRUITING CONTINUES TO BUILD HIS OWN PERSONAL BARE CUPBOARD!
My personal opinons: Sherman, already with 71 personally signed and committed, mostly slower, lower ranked players, out of the 85 ncaa allowed, lost his 12 offer of recent weeks?_____The 12th commit to Mikes bare cupboard, who committed to Les miles and the lsu tigers, is 4* athlete Ronnie Vincent 5-11 186 4.53!_____miller58
Posted by: On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title:
This coach has run off more talent than he has recruited. One or two attitudes maybe but not in these numbers. He has had a big hand in producing his own bare cupboard. He is out of his league (literally) and out of his comfort zone as well.
Posted by: On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: dee68
We need to start a campaign to extend sherman's contract before he logs all the wins and it becomes too expensive. Look how much we could save the athletic department with that move.
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: miller58
Now dont get me wrong. I admit RC was in a much weaker SWC situation when he logged those wins and the other schools saw the light before we did and hired up and coming coaches but dont you think that if fran took RC's players and went 4-8 and 7-5 his first two years then sherman should do the same. I mean he is so much a better coach than fran it is unbelieveable. I am looking for 9 wins this year because of his pro experience and all the speed he has recruited.
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title:
Okay miller58, here's another one for you. If RC inherited 5 years of Jackie's players (your words, not mine) and won because of those players, then wouldn't logically follow that Sherman inherited 5 years of Fran's players. So if you credit Jackie with the win's in RC's first five seasons, then you need to credit (or discredit) Fran with the loses in Sherman's first three years. After all, turnabout is fair play.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller
None of the below post are mine, but I must say, Miller, that you becoming extremely erratic
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: MIKE SHERMAN LOSES ANOTHER COMMIT TO BAYLOR?
My personal opinions:____?____miller58
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE; Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:____Seeing Stars, your post are starting to look more and more Aggie Spin Machine generatee?____miller58
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: Re: miller58
Again. What was RC overall conference record (both SWC and Big 12)? What was Fran's? And you still haven't answered the question: should Dennis Franchione have been fired? Even if you exclude RC's SWC record and only count his Big 12 record, he still did much more than Fran did. So should RC have been fired and Fran hired back in 2002? You blast RC and Sherman for their records. But you always give Fran a pass. Why is that miller58?
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title:
Moving from fran to sherman looks like a move in the wrong direction. We will know this year. His record and recruiting class will decide his future. We will know our direction if not our destiny after two years of sherman and I think all of us are entitled to our opinion of what that direction will be, even if we get it wrong, including dee68 AND miller58.
Posted by: On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: dee68
For pete' sake, IGNORE miller - he's been bad mouthing Sherman since the day he stepped foot on campus. HE'S A FRAN DIEHARD THAT'S PISSED FRAN IS GONE - that alone says it all. His drivel should be ignored.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
Too much smoke not to have a fire but some want to see the flames and feel the heat before they go get the extinguisher. Hope by the time they return we don't have an out of contol situation and lose a valuable structure in the process. Of course, all just speculation and opinion on my part.!?
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE; Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:_____Stars, sorry, I dont have any specific data like that._____I know with up to 200 or more football players turning down Shermans offers in the last 3 signing classes, and then all the players leaving early, I strongly suspect that we have a terrible coaching attitude problem toward both players and recruits, that makes today's kids just want to tell our coaches to shove it; and I'm going somewhere else!_____Definitely no firm written proof of this!_____ it's just all the little things that add up._____It starts with pulling the scholarships of those two commits, that kills us with Texas High School Coaches; then 4* harris and 4* Johnson decommitting just before the first signing day; then reports back from recruits vists, about their shoddy treatment on visits; the up to 200 or more offer turndowns: little or no playing time for previous proven studs, and their relagation to the bench: reported turmoil in the locker room; obvious lack of motivation: With our obvious poor coaching and worse recruiting; something is obviously just rotten in Denmark?_____ Again no specific written source to verify any of this, I just think its there, from all the tidbits and hints._____And you know 85 players go back home, and tell their former high school teammates and coaches their perception of what is really going on!_____And it's possible that this is all just speculation and untrue?_____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
Miller, with Freeney as the latest "left early" depature, I would be interested to know if you have a list of all of the "left early" players since sherman's arrival. Whether transfer, attitude termination, draft entry, injury, or whatever I would like to see a list of those players, their position, and their star rankings if available. Do you have that data? Are the numbers higher than usual under the same circumstances? Just seems as though in addition to just losing numbers we are losing key players in higher than normal percentages.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/9/2009
Comment Title: RE: CROCK O.F. SPIN
My personal opinions:_____CROCK, I think you'll agree that RC inherited 5 future seasons of "JACKIES" players, coaches and previous bowl winning prestige?_____JACKIES players and coaches won for the next five years in a SWC so weak, that even when A&M was winning, they never sniffed a chance to even play or let alone win an mnc?_____RC did a good job of getting us through a tough time, after Jackie!_____RC then got his own players and coaches and soon afer, A&M joined the Big 12!_____RC record against other Big 12 teams is history 35-23, compared to Stoops 73-14 and Macs 73-18?_____Even when A&M beat a favored K State in OT on a fourth down thrilling Sirr Parker 28 yard touchdown, we followed it up with a lackluster Sugar Bowl performance where the only A&M highlite I remember, was Shane's first blocked punt?_____Again, we lost most games against out of conference ranked teams and ranked bowl opponents!_____And Again, A&M did not even sniff an mnc win or even an appeaerance in the mnc game this whole time?_____CROCK, while you can't argue with the records, the Aggie Spin Machine bs in you, I know will try?_____miller58
Posted by: Tampa Ag On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title:
Miller needs to pipe down and learn how to listen.
Posted by: Crocker R.A.B. On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: Miller58 spins another tale
Miller rails against the Aggie Spin Machine. But who is it telling the half-truths? RC's conference record was something like 100-30-1, not 36-23. Plus he won a Big 12 title and numerous SWC titles. And I find it curious that miller58 leaves Fran's record out completely. Did Fran even break .500 in conference play? I can't remember. Or maybe I choose not to remember his disasterious tenure.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
Not my one line post below but I guess you know that.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: COACHES BIG 12 RECORDS AGAINST OTHER BIG 12 TEAMS?
My personal opinions:_____Bob Stoops 73-14_____Mac Brown 73-18_____RC Slocum 36-23_____Mike Sherman 2-6 ?_____miller58.
Posted by: On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title:
Miller 69, if we were ranking posters, you would be less than a 1*, shut up, get some new material or go back to your bario in west bryan, eat your churros and beat your wife. These are 18 year old kids, we cannot tell until they get a few years under their belts. I guess you would rather us recruit the paper tigers like: Jorrie Adams, Tommy Preston, and every other all star that never made it. Shut up, wait a couple of years to see how they turn out. Yes, I am not happy with last year, who would be, but listening to your PREMATURE GARBAGE is getting old. Late pick-ups last year "Hunter, Frederick, Fuller" should at least give Sherm a little credit.
Posted by: Sister On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: (anybody)
Why did freeney leave the team. Was it another attitude issue.
Posted by: LiberalLibertarian On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: TAMU Football
I attended A&M in the glory days of the '80s. I am very sad when I think of how bad our football team really is. The guy coaching it now isn't the answer, it is obvious that we need a young energetic coach if we are going to allow years of rebuilding......we will lose often because our line is too small and we have no skill players left that aren't some other recruiter's rejects.....still, that's when we turned it around under Jackie - when no one knew who Kevin Murray was and no one thought that Johnny Holland was good or big enough to be a good linebacker. We can dream about that while we look for a coaching staff that is as energetic as Brent Venerables or however you spell the guy's name.
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: RE: miller58
While I may agree, realisticly our case will not be heard for 2+ years after the coach is installed on an 8 year contract. The signs are there already in my opinion. My PERSONAL take is I've seen enough and we should cut our losses but it is not going to happen because of the buyout required and the financial state of the athletic dept. While private money may be raised it would still not set well with the average Aggie. And I was careful to say a coach MAY need 2+ years (if he can do it at all). Maybe not a Saban or Meyer, but an average coach, our coach. I am on record as stating there will be HUGE defensive problems this year and that will be enough to keep the record below six wins no matter how prolific the offense. There are contradictions to my view but unless he proves otherwise we need to start the search committee wheels rolling no later than mid season. By that I mean figure who will be available when we need them, how much, where we will get the money, and who is going to be involved in the decision making process. If, on the other hand, he starts out 5-1 or 7-2 I think we will have to call off the dogs.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: MIKE SHERMAN POOR COACHING AND WORSE RECRUITING CAN'T CARRY NICK SABAN'S JOCK!
My personal opinions:_____Mike and Nck both inherited teams with very similar previous 5 year total W/L records; and records also show Nick inherited 36 signed difference makers, and Mike 33 signed difference makers!_____The first huge differences, are Sherman has his last two classes of 5 signed and 3 committed difference makers; while Saban has his last two classes of 22 and 18 signed difference makers?_____The second huge differences, are Saban coached his team to 12-0, regular season wins while Sherman will coach A&M this year, to his second losing season with more loses than wins!_____Mike is simply a poor coach and worse recruiter, while Nick is a great coach and great recruiter!_____As soon as we get a coach like Saban, A&M will have no financial problems with immediate ticket sales increases and multiple donations increases, the result!_____That assumes competent financial management, which may or may not be a reach?_____ miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: Re: Miller
Care to explain your last idiotic comment?
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: RE: Seeing Stars
My personal opinions:____Seeing stars, I will have to politely disagree with you!____Nick Saban and Urban Meyer set the benchmark for 2nd yr coaches who will have sustained sucess.____Saban won 10 games, Meyer won the MNC?____Why did those two programs get great coaches and even better rectuiters, but we got a Sherman?____Who will run our program into a 2x 6ft grave?____Hopefully we'll ge a coach who can sign the required 14-22 4*/5* difference makers in some February?____Or will Mike Mickinney and Sherman let Okie Light and Baylor blow us out by 40+ pts again?____miller58
Posted by: Seeing Stars On: 6/8/2009
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While it is agreed a coach may need 2+ years to turn a program around, you see signs of improvement along the way. Five wins this year and a "weak" recruiting class will not get it done. Six wins would be the minimal mark before some attitudes are changed (some say 7) and then another season of improvement. The season hasn't started and the record hasn't been recorded so we will wait but current events lead some of us to believe it will not happen. All of that remains speculation at this point so we will wait but each week it seems there is more bad news. Paul Freeney just left the team I am told. Seems to be conflicting rumor as to why. He was close to Chavis so maybe the Eagle will have another scathing article but losing 4* DE's is not something you can mark up in the positive column. He will remain in school, graduate in august, but will not play ball.
Posted by: On: 6/8/2009
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There aren't alot of fans calling for his resignation. A vocal few such as youself. Another 4-8 season will get more people to jump on your bandwagon but all rational football fans know a coach needs more than two years to turn a program around. Forget Saban and Meyer - those two inherited programs that hadn't sunk to the depths A&M did under Fran.
Posted by: On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: dee68
Because he listens to me & I told him he was doing a great job & deserved a raise.
Posted by: miller58 On: 6/8/2009
Comment Title: RE: Mike Sherman is a good listener?
My personal opinions:____If Mike Sherman is such a good listener, then why doesn't he listen to Aggie fans calling for his resignation?____miller58
Posted by: On: 6/8/2009
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Would rather see millers constant posts about football which have nothing to do with the article than your constant posts about miller which also have nothing to do with the article.
Posted by: On: 6/8/2009
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Wow! Someone other than miller58 finally posts a leading comment. Maybe he finally got so upset that a blood vessel popped in his brain and he croked.



